Wednesday 10 June 2009

#L029* - SO FAREWELL TO OTHER PEOPLE'S DREAMS




#L029* - SO FAREWELL TO OTHER PEOPLE'S DREAMS

Force Politicians & Snivil Cervants To Remember They WORK FOR US; make Public Servants ACCOUNTABLE!

The corruption of some in Politics is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

SO FAREWELL TO OTHER PEOPLE'S DREAMS AS GANLEY RUNS OFF AS PREDICTED!



Hi,

as we warned originally there was much missing in Declan Ganley's ambitions - in short he neither looked closely enough nor listened to sound advice.

I do not often agree with Helen Szamuely but her blog below on Richard North's EU Referendum blog says much that I agree with that is indisputably true.

I do so hope his 'cavalier ego trip' has not damaged Ireland's resolute rejection of The New Constitution Lisbon Treaty when it comes the corrupt EU concept of making the peoples of Ireland vote again because The EU is NOT a Democracy and the people MUST vote as they are ordered to!

The joys of living in an ever increasing dictatorship that Prof.Anthony Coglin has so resolutely opposed for so many years.

Enjoy Helen's article:

So farewell then ...

The Independent reports that Declan Ganley, the would-be saviour of Europe, has quit politics. Mr Ganley had asked for a recount in the horribly complicated Irish voting system because he thought that some of his votes had been allotted to another candidate. It turned out to be the other way round and the votes, allotted properly put Mr Ganley 13,000 behind the front three runners in the North West euro constituency. (That is, clearly, not the same as the North West euro constituency in England.)

Mr Ganley has rather grandly announced that Libertas was not about him and his return to the private sector will not affect the campaign in the second Irish referendum one bit.

On the whole, this can be described as utter tosh. Mr Ganley made quite sure that much of the campaign was about him. Even if that were not true, his behaviour has done great damage to the cause, damage that it may not recover from.

As readers of this blog know, we were sceptical of Mr Ganley and Libertas.eu both for personal and political reasons. Mr Ganley and the Former British Soldier, Robin Matthews, who led the UK campaign, did little to endear themselves to people who were interested in their activity. (As I said before, I do not take kindly to people who patronize me, unless it happens to be the boss.)

Their political ideas were muddled, (and here) to put it mildly. The idea that there could be some sort of a reform of the European Union through the Toy Parliament, no matter who is elected is laughable in its ignorance of the structure of the political entity they were haughtily explaining to others. (Haughtily but rather vaguely.)

Added to that was the incoherent campaigning that consisted of appeals to eurosceptic groups interspersed with assertions that Libertas.eu was definitely Europhile, as, indeed, it was.

I lost track of the number of press releases I was sent, all of which attacked UKIP. When I asked for a reason, I was told that they were anxious to make sure that UKIP did not benefit from the expenses scandals and, therefore, they had to keep reminding people of such dubious characters as Tom Wise.

This would be logical if people voted solely on the basis of what they thought about the expenses scandal. But that was not so. The fact that UKIP came second, the vote for the various eurosceptic parties added up to a sizeable chunk and the BNP got two seats in the Toy Parliament would indicate that there was a great deal more on people's minds. That is why neither Libertas.eu nor Jury Team did particularly well. It was not simply an anti-politician vote, though there was an element of that.

Finally, there was Libertas's unfortunate tendency to be less than completely transparent in its descriptions of its activity.

For those or other reasons Libertas.eu did as badly as we expected in Britain and 25 other member states. Perhaps a little worse than we expected in Poland. What was rather shocking is how badly the party did in Ireland where the only other one to oppose the Constitutional Lisbon Treaty was Sinn Fein. Did the Irish really vote on domestic issues only or did they feel they had had enough of Mr Ganley and his merry men (and women)?

The answer can come only from someone who is better acquainted with the situation in that country. However, it seems to us obvious that Mr Ganley made a monumental mistake when he allowed his vanity to lead him into trying to form a pan-European party.

Flushed with the triumph of the No vote in the first Irish referendum he ought to have sat back and said that he was interested only in stopping the treaty. This could not be done in the Toy Parliament (a point that escaped Mr Ganley, I suspect) and, therefore, Libertas was not going to get involved in those elections but wait for the second referendum and campaign there.

At most, he should have campaigned only in Ireland, making that into a back-up referendum. He and his colleagues might have done quite well.

Instead, Mr Ganley decided to promote himself and his followers into a band of brothers dedicated to the salvation and reform of the European project. They failed miserably and deservedly. In the process, though, they destroyed Libertas's political credibility in Ireland and damaged, very severely, the chances of a No vote in October when the second referendum is likely to take place. (Smart money is on October 10 but no decision can be taken until the Referendum Bill is passed by the Dail in July.)

The battle in Ireland will be a tough one, made much tougher by Declan Ganley's recent antics and failure. We, in this country, must do all we can to help. This blog is standing by.


To view the original on Richard North's EU Referendum Blog CLICK HERE


For further information on LibertasUK which claims to be a pro EU Party which has not read The Treaties and seemingly has little or no Political Sense - It believes The EU is Democratic and can be changed. Either they are idiots or they are liars, as yet the Jury is out, but no doubt they will dupe enough dreamers (mainly Catholics on a Guilt trip!). bookmark this page and come back to the Blog regularly and we will try to keep you informed and up to date.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

3 comments:

Henry North London 2.0 said...

www.lpuk.org we are committed to leaving the EU. Immediately by repealing the 1972 european communities act

Greg_L-W. said...

Hi,

how sweet!

If only it was that easy!

You require an entire exit and survival strategy and some serious political thought which having looked at the 'so called' Libertarian ideas just isn't joined up thinking UNFORTUNATELY.

Consider, since we no longer have the ability to feed ourselves in Britain being a net importer of food, just how will you feed the British peoples the day after leaving The EU?

Consider the fact that every major international trade is now bound under the terms of The Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties 1969 (SEE OUTLINE AT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_Convention_on_the_Law_of_Treaties)

ALL International Treaties for the supply by importation of food to Britain are under EU Law.

I do NOT contend we can NOT leave the EU merely that repeal of the 1972 ECA will NOT achieve it!

Regards,
Greg L-W.

Greg_L-W. said...

The Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties

can be found at:

1969:
http://untreaty.un.org/ilc/texts/instruments/english/conventions/1_1_1969.pdf

1986:
http://untreaty.un.org/ilc/texts/instruments/english/conventions/1_2_1986.pdf

I hope this helps - it was an airy fairy approach to political issues which ensured that Libertas was a failure - just a rich man's ego on a rampage!

Beware telling the truth will NOT make you popular and will ensure you are banned from various Forums which are dependent on misinformation and egos!!

Good luck ;-)