#L022* - McGuirk Of LIBERTAS LABELS POLE AS STUPID!

#L022* - McGuirk Of LIBERTAS LABELS POLE AS STUPID!

Force Politicians & Snivil Cervants To Remember They WORK FOR US; make Public Servants ACCOUNTABLE!

The corruption of some in Politics is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

John McGuirk CAMPAIGN MANAGER Of LIBERTAS LABELS POLISH SPOKESMAN STUPID!!



Libertas denies Ganley is funding Polish campaign

LIBERTAS HAS denied reports that founder Declan Ganley will in effect personally bankroll the European election campaign of its newly founded Polish branch by guaranteeing bank loans for the party.

The Polish daily Dziennik at the weekend reported assertions from a Libertas Polska party source that the party hoped to raise a loan of €250,000 on the basis of guarantees from Mr Ganley.

Such a loan guarantee, although legal, would effectively circumvent Polish legislation that bans foreign funding of Polish domestic politics, and the suggestion has prompted a heated reaction in the country.

Libertas spokesman John McGuirk insisted yesterday, however, that Mr Ganley was not giving such guarantees. [The source in Libertas Polska] “ was asked a hypothetical question and he gave an answer he shouldn’t have,” said Mr McGuirk. “He answered it in a stupid manner, to be honest.”

Dziennik stood by its story yesterday, citing confirmation of the plan from several sources within the party.

Libertas insists it is financing its campaign to field candidates EU-wide in the June European elections through donations and fundraising.

History has left Poles acutely sensitive to foreign influence on domestic politics and the Libertas report has prompted concern that it could set a dangerous precedent in Polish politics.

“Today it’s Irish money, tomorrow will it be Russian money?” asked Dziennik opinion editor Michal Karnowksi.

“It’s a trick to get the money they cannot accept directly from abroad. It was obvious that Libertas Polska had no money of their own and that Ganley was going to give money, the question until now was just how he was going to do it.”

The Polish election commission, which can examine party financing only in the aftermath of an election, has, however, said campaign loans guaranteed by non-Polish citizens are legitimate. Leading figures in Poland’s ruling Civic Platform (PO) party called it “unsettling” for a party to “get money for elections from a person prohibited by law to do so”.

“This means to circumvent the existing rules,” said Zbigniew Chlebowski, PO parliamentary leader.

Dziennik claims that Libertas Polska will have access to €250,000, as will the Libertas party in Slovakia.

Libertas in Latvia, the newspaper claimed, would have funding of €100,000.

Mr Ganley says Libertas drew down €200,000 during last year’s Lisbon campaign in Ireland from a credit facility he put in place. Today is the deadline for Libertas to submit bank account statements for donations and a document certifying all donations received to the Standards in Public Office Commission (SIPO).

To view the original article CLICK HERE

The Warsaw Business Journal actualy said:

Libertas founder to fund Polish party through the back door?
30th March 2009

Irish millionaire businessman Declan Ganley plans to take advantage of a loophole in Polish law that would allow him to fund the Polish branch of euroskeptic political party Libertas.

Polish law bans foreign financial funding in domestic politics, but Ganley appears to have found a way to bypass current legislation. The founder of Libertas and ardent euroskeptic proposes to act as a guarantor if Libertas Poland are unable to repay the bank loans issued to run the party.

The story broke in Saturday's edition of Dziennik and provoked outrage amongst politicians, who described the news as “scandalous.”

Zbigniew Chlebowski, PO's parliamentary club leader, called the news “unsettling” as, “a bank guarantee that gives a party money for elections can be given by a person that is prohibited by law to do so. This means to circumvent the existing rules,” he said.

Mr Chlebowski called for fast and decisive action in dealing with Mr Ganley's proposed funding, and expects advice from specialist lawyers to be available in the coming days. From Warsaw Business Journal by Robert Szmigielski

To view the original article CLICK HERE

For further information on LibertasUK which claims to be a pro EU Party which has not read The Treaties and seemingly has little or no Political Sense - It believes The EU is Democratic and can be changed. Either they are idiots or they are liars, as yet the Jury is out, but no doubt they will dupe enough dreamers (mainly Catholics on a Guilt trip!). bookmark this page and come back to the Blog regularly and we will try to keep you informed and up to date.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

#L021* - GOING DOWN TO BRUSSELS IN THE GREEN!

#L021* - GOING DOWN TO BRUSSELS IN THE GREEN!

Force Politicians & Snivil Cervants To Remember They WORK FOR US; make Public Servants ACCOUNTABLE!

The corruption of some in Politics is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

#L021* - GOING DOWN TO BRUSSELS IN THE GREEN! - THE GREEN & THE RED?

The great debate?
In the narrow world of Brussels politics, high entertainment is looming. On Wednesday, Declan Ganley, founder of anti-treaty group Libertas, will face off with Dany ‘le Rouge’ Cohn-Bendit, co-leader of the Greens in the European Parliament in a debate on Europe. And already everybody’s talking about it.

To some in Brussels, Ganley is the devil himself. Charging around, upsetting the political apple cart with loose talk about the treaty all the while claiming to be pro-European. To others, Ganley, who wants to be an MEP, is bringing a welcome edge to the EU political debate ahead of the European elections.

But still he remains an unknown entity in the EU capital. While most have read about him – the Irish businessman who spearheaded a successful campaign against the Lisbon Treaty resulting in Ireland’s no vote last year – few have heard him speak, let alone debate.

He will be facing one of Brussels’ best known politicians. Cohn-Bendit, of 1968er fame, is strongly pro-European, highly opinionated, and a good debater. Ganley, who only recently made the switch from the boardroom to politics, has yet to show himself to be in the same league.

Still I am looking forward to the meeting. Ganley, I feel, is indeed tapping into a swell of people who feel alienated by Brussels. But I don’t think his one-horse campaign - table-thumping, slogan-filled but ultimately lacking in ideas as it is - is the answer.

At the recent unveiling of Libertas’ Brussels office – in which he harangued journalists like they needed to be converted to his politics - the party’s list of ‘principles’ consisted of a ragbag of ideas including less EU meetings, making MEPs’ expenses public and reducing the Union’s annual budget. There was little of what Libertas stood for and much of what it stood against.

So let the gloves come off on Wednesday - but let it be a debate on substance…

To view the original article CLICK HERE

I wonder what Declan Ganley's relationship with the EU is when his first confrontational debate within the EU would seem to be somewhat contra his own claims of being IN The EU but changing it - what similar to The German Green Party's attitudes to sex with children? Join in but alter the position!

Allegations of Paedophilia
While Fischer was more concerned with demonstrations, Cohn-Bendit worked in the Karl-Marx-Buchhandlung bookshop and ran a kindergarten (of children between five and eight years' old).

Later in 2001 he was accused of pedophilia.
This accusation was grounded on the following citation from his 1975 book Le Grand Bazar, [1]:
"It happened to me several times that certain kids opened my fly and started to stroke me. I reacted differently according to circumstances, but their desire posed a problem for me. I asked them: 'Why don't you play together? Why have you chosen me, and not the other kids?' But if they insisted, I caressed them still.[2]"

On the 31st of January, 2001 in the Berlin newspaper [3] published open letter to Cohn-Bendit from the former German Foreign Minister, Klaus Kinkel, demanding Cohn-Bendit clarify whether there was actual physical contact with the children . The Berliner Zeitung published Cohn-Bendit's response. He said that he was "not aware of the problem" (“das Problem nicht bewusst”). "We tried," ..."a collective discourse of a new sexual morality yet to be defined"( “in einem kollektiven Diskurs eine neue Sexualmoral zu defineiren”).

The reported sex scenes, were a "me-oriented self-reflection" (“ich-bezogene Selbstreflexion”).

Cohn-Bendit, did not say there was no sexual contact with children. When interviewed on the 28th January, 2001 by ”The Observer” [4] Cohn-Bendit told the journalist, “I admit that what I wrote is unacceptable nowadays.”

In the 1980s the Greens experimented with various policies which would decriminalize sex with children. At its national conference in Lüdenscheid (March 1985) the Greens in North Rhine-Westphalia called for "nonviolent sexuality" between children and adults never to be subject to criminal prosecution.

In 1987 the policy was " When young people have the desire for older peers outside the family, prevented either because their homosexuality is not accepted by their parents, or because they have pädosexuelle inclinations, be it for other reasons, they must be given the opportunity to do so. "

To view the original article CLICK HERE

For further information on LibertasUK which claims to be a pro EU Party which has not read The Treaties and seemingly has little or no Political Sense - It believes The EU is Democratic and can be changed. Either they are idiots or they are liars, as yet the Jury is out, but no doubt they will dupe enough dreamers (mainly Catholics on a Guilt trip!). bookmark this page and come back to the Blog regularly and we will try to keep you informed and up to date.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

#L020* - LIBERTAS REPUTATION AT RISK

#L020* - LIBERTAS REPUTATION AT RISK

Force Politicians & Snivil Cervants To Remember They WORK FOR US; make Public Servants ACCOUNTABLE!

The corruption of some in Politics is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

LIBERTAS REPUTATION PUT AT RISK by Anthony BUTCHER!


Anthony BUTCHER & Brendan PADMORE STILL SUPPORT EUkip's DISHONESTY & LIES ON THEIR FORUM!

Hi,

As if Libertas UK didn't have enough problems with Libertas UK having been registered by Nigel Farage's friend and press officer Bridget Rowe and Farage considering standing candidates having opted not to in a recent by election since Junius had heard his plans in Brussels and published them!

One has to wonder, in view of his catastrophic leadership, whether Nigel Farage is testing out a contingency plan to jump ship from EUkip to his own version of Libertas as it is an undeniable fact that Farage was behind the signing of an agreement by Derek Clark that was in accord with Libertas EU policies and DEFFINITELY not UKIP principles as being a policy of change rather than withdrawal from The EU.

You may not be aware that Derek Clark an elderly self interested EUkip MEP with a very small and shrinking following, signed an agreement that Britain should be subject to GREATER 'Subsidiarity' of The Odious EU AND the agreement to work WITH The EU through committees to improve EU control over these United Kingdoms.

For Libertas this is perhaps acceptable but for UKIP such an attitude brought a day of shame which EUkip has failed to repudiate and the behaviour of such as Anthony Butcher, Brendan Padmore and others is treachery and betrayal of proportions previously known more honestly as Treason.

It is interesting to note that Anthony Butcher as owner of what was UKIPForum but has now dumbed down as British Democracy Forum together with his postulate Brendan Padmore (who is so ashamed of his behaviour he hides behind the name B.A. Ware, how droll!) clearly kiss the ring of their puppet masters.

Many will remember that in an attempt to stiffle the truth Paul NuttAll the unelected Faragista Fan Club puppet chairman of EUkip wrote a pack of lies, which I presume are still in the Archive and based upon these lies Anthony Butcher corruptly and dishonestly bowed to the lies and hounded me for telling the truth on his Forum - I was expected to lie by omission and be as dishonest and untrustworthy as Anthony Butcher & Brendan Padmore who provide a platform for the lies of EUkip and their corrupt and dishonest supporters such as Douglas Denny, Paul NuttAll, Bob Feel Martinis, Mark Croucher, Mick McGough and their ilk.

Regularly defamatory statements are made about me and NEVER corrected though they come without a shred of evidence and I am denied any right of reply let alone the right to present the facts or even since it is a Forum beset with similar dishonesty and abuse I am denied the right to behave similarly.

It is interesting to note that the dishonest and unethical Anthony Butcher who now actively seeks status and probably income in support of the Declan Ganley Libertas debacle - be minded of his claimed expertise and desire for status with Ganley it is quite incredible that Anthony Butcher lacked either the integrity or the intelligence to warn Declan Ganley to register the name Libertas UK.

Knowing how dishonest Butcher is and how computer illiterate Farage is one has to wonder if he was party to the registration of Libertas UK in the name of Farage's friend and press officer Bridget Rowe.

I note that yet again to aid EUkip in the suppression of the truth Anthony Butcher has issued a warning to a poster on his Forum for stating a FACT - that being that Peter Reeve is subject of a Police Complaint for the common assault of a EUkip member whom he had invited to a EUkip public meeting.

Peter REEVE EUkip's BNP look alike knuckle dragger and Party fixer, bully boy and liar assaulted John West at a EUkip meeting.

A complaint was made to Cambridgeshire Police.

The complaint was given the enquiry case number: CF0669431208

The Police have taken 4 independent statements I understand.

I am aware that 3 statements supported the veracity of the complaint.

To suppress these FACTS Anthony Butcher has lied saying no such case existed and has threatened to ban the poster.

Many of you will recall that some time ago Brendan Padmore dishonestly and corruptly removed me from the list with the support and collusion of his dishonest chum Butcher, based on the lies of EUkip in their claim that Peter Reeve WAS NOT under investigation for Common Assault when it was a FACT that he was.

I am thus banned for life for telling the truth whilst these dishonest individuals collude to provide a platform for regular and defamatory statements regarding me.

Brendan Padmore & Anthony Butcher are thus clearly dishonest, corrupt and beneath contempt, supporting the distribution of defamation, insults, cyber attacks and lies on their Forum misleading and thus promoting lies to the members of the Forum in the suppression of the truth.

I wonder if Declan Ganley and Libertas EU are aware of the dishonesty of their little chum Anthony Butcher? Perhaps the individual Anthony Butcher has recently dishonestly threatened with a warning will feel it appropriate to inform Ganley & Libertas!

Based on my experiences they will be happy to be known as liars and in support of dishonesty - you need only glance at their Forum to see they make no effort to prevent defamation, insults, dishonesty, outright lies and the suppression of the truth - It speaks volumes of their integrity, lack of morality and ethical failure.

For further information on LibertasUK which claims to be a pro EU Party which has not read The Treaties and seemingly has little or no Political Sense - It believes The EU is Democratic and can be changed. Either they are idiots or they are liars, as yet the Jury is out, but no doubt they will dupe enough dreamers (mainly Catholics on a Guilt trip!). bookmark this page and come back to the Blog regularly and we will try to keep you informed and up to date.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

#L019* - THE STANDARD OF DEBATE IN EIRE!

#L019* - THE STANDARD OF DEBATE IN EIRE!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

THE STANDARD OF DEBATE IN EIRE BUT THEN AGAIN IT LOOKS LIKE NO ONE WANTED THE JOB!!


Hi,

having had quite a long conversation this morning with Prof. Anthony Coughlan, who I have known over many years, I am interupting the EUkip aspect of this particular Blog to give you some information on Ireland's politics - there is a follow up article in today's Irish Times if you CLICK HERE which does seem very optimistic for a NO vote in the next Referendum in October.

I am consideroing, after conversation with Anthony, setting up a separate Blog on Ireland's Politics to keep people informed on the Lisbon Treaty progress or more optimisticly FAILURE.

This may prove more important than one might think with the possibility that despite the developing anger and contempt with the Irish Government the politicisation of the Referendum by the fact that Declan Ganley's ill considered party will have linked the referendum with the fortunes of Libertas somewhat too closely - this could lead to failure of the NO campaign.

EUkip's probable and to be welcomed collapse in the EU elections would however guarantee the collapse of the pro EU Group EUkip is a member of The Ind.Dem.Group and it was this group which through Jens Petre Bonde produced the documentation used in Ireland by Anthony Coughlan's National Platform and later on Declan Ganley's group for NO.

Also there was the advantage of Kathy Sinnott having a position of some influence on The Ind.Dem.Group that made letters to every Irish citizen possible.

Anyway in the interim:

From: Prof. Anthony Coughlan
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:12 PM

Subject: EU Commission plans massive interference in second Irish Lisbon Treaty referendum ... For your information


The National Platform EU Research and Information Centre
24 Crawford Avenue
Dublin 9

Web-site: http://www.nationalplatform.org/


Wednesday 18 March 2009


Dear Friends,

According to the Irish Times news report below, a meeting is taking place in Brussels today between the entire EU Commission and Mr Martin Territt, Head of the EU Commission Representation in Ireland, to discuss how the Commission can influence Irish opinion in the lead-in to Ireland's re-run of the Lisbon referendum next October. It is seemingly planned to spend some ¤2 million on advertisements for this purpose

The article is by Jamie Smyth, who is Irish Times's EU correspondent.


A few weeks ago the Irish Times carried an advertisement from the EU Commission Representation in Ireland seeking tenders for an advertising campaign in this country to "inform" people better about the EU. Accompanying press reports stated that this advertising campaign is to be specially targeted at women and young people over the next few months, as these are groups which predominantly voted No to Lisbon in Ireland's referendum last June, according to opinion polls.


It is well-known that the EU Commission is itself a highly self-interested party as regards the Lisbon Treaty, for the Treaty, which is a revamped version of the 2004 EU Constitution that was rejected by the French and Dutch peoples in referendums, would greatly increase the Commission's powers and functions and would provide it with many new areas of policy for which it would have the exclusive right of initiative as regards proposing European laws - something that must surely outrage any geuine democrat.


In late 2007 ago, in the lead-in to last year's Lisbon referendum, former Irish Green Party MEP Patricia McKenna and the undersigned complained to Ireland's statutory Broadcasting Complaints Commission about the EU Commission Office in Dublin spending ¤360,000 on a series of political advertisements on Irish community and local radio stations even though such broadcast advertiments are unlawful in this country, as they are in the UK and various other EU countries.


These EU Commission-sponsored advertisements ostensibly aimed to tell people about the existence of various sources of information on the EU, something that one could not reasonably object to - but they also contained highly loaded and tendentious statements about how much money Ireland had received from the EU over the years, how EU laws had made phone calls and airplane flights cheaper, how the EU had conferred various other benefits on Ireland etc.


These adverts could certainly influence people's attitutes when it came to voting - that being the criterion Ireland's Broadcasting Complaints Commission's uses in deciding whether a broadcast advertisement is "political" or not.


The Broadcasting Complaints Commission upheld our complaint and ruled that the EU Commission's advertisements were indeed political and as such were effectively encouraging Irish broadcasters to breach the statutory ban on political advertising in this country.


If this complaint had not been made and upheld, one can be confident that the EU Commission Office in Ireland would have gone on to repeat these politically potent advertisements on national radio and TV here


It is quite outrageous from a democratic point of view that the EU Commission and its representative in Dublin, Mr Mertin Territt, should be planning to spend large sums of EU taxpayers' money on seeking to influence Irish voters to reverse their vote of last June on the Lisbon Treaty in order, inter alia, to increase significantly the power of the EU Commission itself.

We appeal to you to draw this outrageously undemocratic behaviour of the Brussels Commission to the attention of people in your country and in as many other EU countries as possible, so to that they can raise their voices in protest.


Yours faithfully,


Anthony Coughlan
Director
_______

Irish Times, Saturday 14 March 2009, page 11

Commission to seek ways to help State on Lisbon campaign

Jamie Smyth in Brussels

The European Commission will hold a special meeting next week to determine how it can help the Government campaign to secure a Yes vote in the second Lisbon referendum.


All 27 EU commissioners will meet the head of the commission's Irish representation office, Martin Territt, in Brussels on Wednesday to consider a range of initiatives that will better inform the Irish about Europe and the treaty.


They will discuss the launch of a new publicity campaign designed to inform the Irish public about the merits of EU membership. They are also expected to agree on a high-profile series of visits to the Republic by EU commissioners and commission president Jose Manuel Barroso.


'One of the lessons the commission and the European Parliament learnt from the first referendum on the Lisbon Treaty was that the pro-Lisbon voices were too often absent from the public debate,' said a senior commission source, who added that the EU's most visible institution - the EU's executive - could not be absent from the debate this time.


The three main EU institutions - the commission, parliamentand council - all took a back seat during the first referendum campaign on the Lisbon Treaty on the advice of the Government, which was concerned their input could hurt the Yes campaign. But there is a growing appreciation in Brussels that a deeply unpopular Govenmrnt will need all the help it can get to persuade the public to change their vote.


The commission is unlikely to propose getting directly involved in the referedum campaign itself, which will remain the primary responsibility of the Government. But it will propose providing information to the public to ensure they understand how Europe plays a role in their everyday life and to clarify points of the treaty that are disputed. A new EU-funded ¤l.8 million publicity campaign in Ireland is due to begin shortly.


Mr Territt is expected to update commissioners on the potential strengh of the No campaign, and particularly the rise of Libertas. He is likely to discuss the changed economic context and how that could affect a second referendum.


EU competition commisisoner Neelie Kroes is likely to be the first member of the EU executive to travel the Republic. EU foreign affairs chief Javier Solana is also considering travelling to Ireland next month to talk about European security policy.

Anyone who can help with this proje ct will be more than welcome, just contact me and lets see what we can do.

The Door to Liberty for Britain may well be the failure of The Lisbon Treaty but there is no doubt the key to the door is The Irish Referendum!

We have our own huge Referendum on 4th. June when we can all make our contempt known by writing on our ballot papers:
LEAVE THE EU

For once Farage has got something right!

Treat the EU Election on the 4th. June as a Referendum

Write on YOUR Ballot Paper:
LEAVE THE EU

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

#L018* The Great LAUNCH - PLOP!

#L018* The Great LAUNCH - PLOP!

Hi,

I wonder why Libertas are you building their campaign on change?

Clearly Libertas are founded on a pack of lies - this is morally reprehensible.

Do please beg them to go and do some homework as it is clear they haven't a clue what you are talking about, as they stumble their way through reading their ill rehearsed speach.

Declan Ganley bizzarrely claims that The EU has been one of the greatest of peace making forces!!! What planet does this dangerous fool live on.

Has Libertas looked at the massive EU spend of OUR money on armament, centralising control for EUroPol & The Rapid Repression Army and it doesn't matter if you call it Mary Anne it is a centralised army unaccountable to the people.

He may also have seen arms being centralised in France (rocketry (Arian) & Aircraft production also, perhaps he hasn't noticed Britain no longer even makes ammunition and we were nearly defeated in The Falkland War because France supplied Argentina with Exocetes and brought pressure on Belgium to starve us of .762 rimless ammunition.

Peace YOU JEST - Declan are you a naiive fool or a dangerous liar - there is no other position you can claim. This has all the PEACE of Ireland in WWII as pacifists yet they harboured the wolf pack flottillas of U-Boats & The Propaganda of William Joyce + an endless stream of intel. for Nazi France & Germany.

Do tell me ONE phrase in the 100s of 1,000s of pages of EU Diktat - where does it say the people have a say?

Where does it say the direction of the evil dream can be changed?

I very much doubt if ANYONE in Libertas has read:
'The Mad Officials', 'The Castle of Lies' or 'The Great Deception' by Dr. Richard North & Christopher Booker
or
'The Rotten Heart of EUrope' by Bernard Connolley
nor
Sir John Gubb's 'The Fate of Empires'
& it seems certain they have absolutely no concept of nor have they read 'The Elysee Treaty' and one even wonders if they have understanding of the role of The Frankfurt School, Altiero Spinelli, The Fabians, Jean Monnet,The Cathars/Knights Templar/Knights of St. John/Masons nor the role of The Vatican - No I thought not!

You have clearly missed the plot and lost the point.
If you do NOT believe in evil dismantle the EU, it will not and does not negotiate - like a giant snake it weaves its way through all of life swallowing all before it and just like a giant constrictor it takes small incremental bites crushing as it goes but never releasing one slice that it has to date consumed.

I believe that Declan Ganley's naiivite or deceit verges on the criminal and the deliberate blindness of his central team says more of their desire to get their one hand in his pocket and the other in the Gravy on the train they aim to mount.







The Question and answer session is even more embarrassing and it is clear that this 1/2 Colnel he has dug up hasn't a clue what he is talking about and I fear Declan Ganley seem to have no policy but dreams and no aim but to stand on the necks of the EUroSceptics for his gain.

He is right to stamp out EUkip as clearly they have gone native and are, as he clearly alludes, merely usefull idiots for the EU. Attacking an enemy by standing on the bodies of the vanquised and the slaves is no stance of glory and unsettles the footing of any force but Ganley clearly is no force for he has no vision and is running on Tory Light and an easy going personna masking a driven ego - how else did he make his Millions?

Do leave your informed comments on each of his little video clips.

His great launch would seem to have been little more than a 'plop' and it looks much as if he will destabilise much, achieve little and sink without trace on June 5th. Having fatally wounded the Eire campaign against The Lisbon Treaty and thus been no more than another Useful Idiot on whose neck The EU's next chosen Jesters stand!

Regards,
Greg L-W.

#L017* - PLAN AHEA - JOINED UP THOUGHT WOULD HELP

#L017* - PLAN AHEA
JOINED UP THOUGHT WOULD HELP

Force Politicians & Snivil Cervants To Remember They WORK FOR US; make Public Servants ACCOUNTABLE!

The corruption of some in Politics is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

PLAN AHEA
- JOINED UP THOUGHT WOULD have soooo much HELPED!

Hi,

From what we see of this parody of politics one has to wonder if they have ANYONE who has a clue what they are doing! It sure doesn't look that way as they play hop scotch in the political minefield.

It starts to look as if they totally lack morality as they try to persuade people to vote for them when either they are fools or liars.

& From THE IRISH TIMES today:

Thursday, March 5, 2009

Libertas in fresh controversy
over bid to recruit Swedish group

MARY FITZGERALD, Foreign Affairs Correspondent

LIBERTAS BECAME embroiled in fresh controversy yesterday following its attempts to persuade a Swedish Eurosceptic party to merge with the organisation in Sweden.

Sören Wibe, leader of Junilistan (The June List), claims that representatives from anti-Lisbon Treaty party Libertas offered considerable sums of money, including almost €1 million on one occasion, if his party agreed to change its name to Junilistan-Libertas.

After the story appeared in the Swedish media earlier this week, Anita Kelly, a spokeswoman for Libertas, told Sweden’s state-funded radio station P1 that no such offer had been made.

“We did not make any offer to any party to run with Libertas or anything like that. We have discussed budgets as we would with anyone, but money was not offered,” she said.

Libertas was registered as a political party by the Swedish Election Authority on Tuesday after the organisation gathered the 1,500 signatures required for registration.

Mr Wibe, whose party was formed the year after Swedish voters rejected the adoption of the euro in a 2003 referendum, told The Irish Times he had met with Libertas founder Declan Ganley in Sweden in January.

The offers of financial assistance had come from Libertas representatives of Scandinavian origin on other occasions, and not from Mr Ganley, he added.

“One of my colleagues was offered 10 million kronor [about €900,000] for the party and, in other discussions, it was clear that sums of that size were available,” Mr Wibe said.

“I have at least a dozen witnesses who can verify that these approaches were made.”

Junilistan garnered 14 per cent of the vote in Sweden’s 2004 European elections and won three seats in the European Parliament out of the country’s allocation of 19. The party is a member of the Independence and Democracy grouping in Brussels.

Libertas intends to run candidates in all 27 member states in the European Parliament elections in June in an attempt to transform the ballot into a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.

Mr Wibe said he was shocked by the nature of Libertas’s overtures to his party. “I believe [Libertas’s] behaviour was extremely unethical,” he said yesterday.

“I was insulted. It would be extremely unethical for our party to be funded by a millionaire from another country. It goes against everything we stand for.”

Of Mr Ganley, he said: “I do believe that he means well, but I also believe he is not a politician. He doesn’t understand that doing politics is not the same as doing business.”

In a statement posted on its website, Junilistan said: “Politics is not money. Politics is credibility and being true to the message you deliver to your voters.”

Libertas did not return calls yesterday for comment.

To view the original of this article CLICK HERE

Hey - How about UKILUKP?

United Kingdom Independence Farage Libertas United Kingdom Party?

For further information on LibertasUK which claims to be a pro EU Party which has not read The Treaties and seemingly has little or no Political Sense - It believes The EU is Democratic and can be changed. Either they are idiots or they are liars, as yet the Jury is out, but no doubt they will dupe enough dreamers (mainly Catholics on a Guilt trip!). bookmark this page and come back to the Blog regularly and we will try to keep you informed and up to date.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country.

Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

#L016* - LEAVE THE EU - There Is No Middle Route

#L016* - LEAVE THE EU - There Is No Middle Route

Force Politicians & Snivil Cervants To Remember They WORK FOR US; make Public Servants ACCOUNTABLE!The corruption of some in Politics is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

LEAVE THE EU - There Is No LIBERTAS Middle Route! To Pretend There Is Is Fundamentally Dishonest of Libertas!


Hi,

I do not claim to have the answers when it comes to getting out of The EU but I do have serious suggestions you may wish to debate, refine and use:

TO LEAVE THE EU

Consider:

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future!

My suggestion was challenge and I have responded to the challenge interleaved in the hope that it helps clarify our hopes for the future and the utter futility of Politicians as a prospective route to liberation.

I do hope you do not mind if I use the reasoned letter to make some reasoned replies:

My Correspondent wrote:
Wasting your vote will achieve nothing, Though?

Let us consider the EU elections first since clearly I agree with you for ALL elections.

Since before we joined the Common Market now EU every aspirant politician has stated, regardless of status or party, that the CAP & CFP were wrong, bad for Britain and damaging and must be changed. It may interest you to know that since that date no politician from Britain of ANY party has managed to alter a single solitary comma, stop or phrase of consequence.

Perhaps you see my point:
Why waste a vote on a Politician as clearly whoever you elect will make absolutely no change.Just write on your Ballot Paper LEAVE THE EU rather than waste your vote on a politician!

My Correspondent wrote:
Personally I vote for UKIP or EUKIP as you so passionately say, I take on board that they might be a joke political party but Never the less,

By 'Never the less' I presume you are unaware that they would be hard pressed to do less than they have to liberate Britain and have even signed up to the concept that Britain should be subject to GREATER subsidiarity to the EU!!

My Correspondent wrote:
UKIP stands for a withdrawal from the European Union and for that promise I will always vote for them.

May I correct you - increasingly it is clear that they stand for self interest of a small claque in The Faragista Fan Club.

Do also be minded that increasingly they have not only lost sight of their aim - the aim that got them elected and now grandelloquently hold forth on 'policies' they barely comprehend and their supporters could care less about.

My Correspondent wrote:
Adding to that I consider that spoiling a vote is the worst thing that we can do,

I do submit the worst in terms of the sacrifices of our ancestors is apathy and not bothering to vote!

My Correspondent wrote:
People in our distant past has given their life's for the electoral system an I believe this principal is fundamental to British Constitutional Governance,

They gave their lives so that you and I could act with intelligence they hoped - many who have died were seriously anti political and their motivation was a hatred of a 'Ruling class'.

It is YOUR duty to choose what you do with your vote and that includes waste it on a politician or constructively build a movement based upon the Referendum principle of writing LEAVE THE EU on your ballot.

My Correspondent wrote:
We might not be able to bring about our wishes through this system but thats not the system's fault,

Be minded that by ticking/thinking within the box you are complying with restrictions that ensure a continuance of the status quo.

Think outside the box and don't vote for the politician or party but for the principle of a vote. I have already shown ONE of the ways in which a vote for a politician or a party is a wasted vote.

My Correspondent wrote:
It's our uneducated and apathetic masses who are to blame.

Firstly that IS a fault in the system - based on 'one man one vote' being little more than a guaranteed recipe for rule by the fool!

The fool can be controlled within the box and thus the vote of one is expunged by the vote of another and thus less and less people vote as they become aware it couldn't matter which idiot gets in!

My Correspondent wrote:
I'm not old enough to remember the Troubles in Northern Ireland but alot can be learnt from it, The people of Northern Ireland have and will always be treated by our Westminster Government as being a surge on this nation,

I presume you mean 'scourge' - I do not agree. The problems of N.Ireland is far more complex than you paint it but to be fair you did say you knew little of it.

My Correspondent wrote:
The Government have and will always want to hand over control to the Republic

Have you ANY evidence of this?

My Correspondent wrote:
yet one thing has always stopped them from doing so, The People.

A major factor is a fundamental duty to uphold democracy.

My Correspondent wrote:
The Anglo-Irish Treaty of 1973/74 (Sunningdale Agreement) aimed to create a "Council of Ireland" that would allow cross-border Governance between Northern Ireland and the Republic.

Probably one of the most crass and ill considered documents in our history founded on desparation by guttless and incompetent politicians - it was catastrophic leading to huge numbers of deaths and £Billions.

My Correspondent wrote:
This treaty-agreement was detested that much that the Ulster Defence Association organised a general strike, A strike which brought Northern Ireland to it's knees and killed the treaty dead! Hundreds of thousands of people stood up and said No, The Politicians were defeated and had to resort back to the drawing board.

Do remind us of who were the Government and consider the damage in that process of firstly the EU (Common Market at that stage).

Be also minded that The Vatican has never denounced murder or terrorism, with Catholic priests aiding and assisting The IRA & The Vatican refusing to defrock or excommunicate terrorist murderers.

My Correspondent wrote:
If we had that type of support and that type of public backing we could orgnaise a General Strike, Sadly I don't the people of Great Britain have the apatite,

I am proud to say that the British peoples do not have the 'apetite' for the obscene behaviour of the terrorists of Ireland.

The time MAY come but I believe more can be achieved by not wasting your vote on politicians - rather USE your vote:
write LEAVE THE EU on your ballot paper turning the election into a referendum.

Regardless of Party it is essential to get people of all persuasions to LEND THEIR VOTE and write LEAVE THE EU on their ballot papers too.

My Correspondent wrote:
Those of us who are Loyal to the Nation and will defend her at all costs will undoubtedly have to resort to others means,

Voting for Politicians and for Parties has been proved beyond doubt to be a failure and has found us as a vassal region in an alien Country called EU.

The time has come to think outside the box and stop being conned.

Write LEAVE THE EU on your ballot whatever your choice of Party or tribal vote.

My Correspondent wrote:
Maybe the troubles in Northern Ireland have given us hope that people (never mind what side you aline yourself) can never be beaten,

I take it you are either young or have never travelled beyond the odd holiday - or both.

Perhaps you could make this comment to many generations in Africa, India,China and many other Countries.

My Correspondent wrote:
The cause can never die.

Oh yes it can, all be it it may not die but wither and vanish!

My Correspondent wrote:
J.S.

Thanks for your thoughts and the opportunity to comment on them.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU